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soap·box Listen to the pronunciation of soapbox
Pronunciation:
\- ËŒbäks\
Function:
noun
Date:
1907
: an improvised platform used by a self-appointed, spontaneous, or informal orator ; broadly : something that provides an outlet for delivering opinions
— soapbox adjective

A good opinion needs no profanity, no censorship, and no truthiness.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness


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  1. Fred
    Fred

    New group! + -

    Fred Jun 25 at 2008, 6:58 AM
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    Fred said "Politics Uncensored! join today and say what you will freely! http://newyork.going.com/group-2444;P... "
    Politics Uncensored! join today and say what you will freely!

    http://newyork.going.com/group-2444;P...
    1. SUVs R wasteful
      SUVs R wasteful

      RE: New group! + -

      SUVs R wasteful Jun 25 at 2008, 10:22 AM
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      SUVs R wasteful said "Cool :-) We need a better alternative."
      Cool :-)

      We need a better alternative.
    Last post 25 days ago
  2. SUVs R wasteful
    SUVs R wasteful

    Going.com IS a Democracy + -

    SUVs R wasteful Jun 24 at 2008, 9:55 AM
    3 posts
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    SUVs R wasteful said "Yay!!! Wait a minute, though... Maybe going.com, Fred, and I are the same person!!! OH NOES!!!! "
    Yay!!!

    Wait a minute, though...

    Maybe going.com, Fred, and I are the same person!!!

    OH NOES!!!!



    Or maybe it's a conspiracy...



    Or maybe people actually believe in the free flow of ideas and dialogue, you know, like in a democracy.

    :-|
    1. SUVs R wasteful
      SUVs R wasteful

      RE: Going.com IS a Democracy + -

      SUVs R wasteful Jun 24 at 2008, 10:04 AM
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      SUVs R wasteful said "* Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or a"
      * Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

      -- First Amendment to the United States Constitution

      * I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty, than those attending too small a degree of it.

      -- To Archibald Stuart, Philadelphia, 23 December 1791. Cited in Jefferson, Thomas (2002). "1791", Jerry Holmes Thomas Jefferson: A Chronology of His Thoughts, p. 128, Rowman & Littlefield. ISBN 0742521168.

      * After all, if freedom of speech means anything, it means a willingness to stand and let people say things with which we disagree, and which do weary us considerably.

      --Zechariah Chafee; in Chafee (1920). Freedom of Speech, p. 366, Harcourt, Brace and Howe.

      * It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them.

      --Mark Twain Following the Equator

      * We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.

      --John F. Kennedy

      * The First Amendment is often inconvenient. But that is besides the point. Inconvenience does not absolve the government of its obligation to tolerate speech.

      --Justice Anthony Kennedy

      * "If freedom of speech means anything at all, it is the freedom to say things that people do not want to hear"

      --George Orwell

      * "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

      --Evelyn Beatrice Hall, writing as S. G. Tallentyre in 1906 (commonly attributed to Voltaire, of whom Hall wrote a biography).

      * "...if any opinion is compelled to silence, that opinion may, for aught we can certainly know, be true. To deny this is to assume our own infallibility."

      --John Stuart Mill, On Liberty (1859)

      * "In a free state, tongues too should be free."

      --Erasmus, The Education of a Christian Prince (1516).
      1. Fred
        Fred

        RE: Going.com IS a Democracy + -

        Fred Jun 24 at 2008, 9:27 PM
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        Fred said "I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
        I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Last post 25 days ago
  3. SUVs R wasteful
    SUVs R wasteful

    Censorship in Politics + -

    SUVs R wasteful Apr 25 at 2008, 4:04 PM
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    SUVs R wasteful said "LOL, my posts are being censored again. Here are the ones that were deleted: ================= Angry mod said: "
    LOL, my posts are being censored again. Here are the ones that were deleted:
    =================
    Angry mod said:

    > There's only truth

    That sounds like something a fundamentalist would say, implying that the truth is absolute. Not recognizing the perspective of others smacks of an absence of objectivity.
    =================
    SUVs R wasteful said:

    We were supposed to arrive at the dollar per dollar account of the spending in Iraq. And also start holding people accountable for actions and spending. Somehow all that disappeared in the war of words politicians play.

    That is truth. Numbers and actions. Not words and perceptions.

    How hard someone waves the flag over my head telling me not to question the government.

    That's truthiness, which a fundamentalist loves to use in its manipulative, extremist rhetoric.
    ==============================

    NOW this last post was very generic and not directed at anyone. Yet this person thought it should be deleted.

    What was the reason for it???

    :-|
    1. SUVs R wasteful
      SUVs R wasteful

      RE: Censorship in Politics + -

      SUVs R wasteful Apr 25 at 2008, 4:11 PM
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      SUVs R wasteful said "The other deleted post: ============= Angry mod said: > The electoral college gets rid of close margins. 200"
      The other deleted post:
      =============
      Angry mod said:

      > The electoral college gets rid of close margins.

      2000 election. You seem confused and I hope you respond less often to my posts.

      Also, I find it disrespectful that you post here not using your real identity. Take notice of the group charter.
      =============
      SUVs R wasteful said:

      Ok my bad, I have no problems admitting a err of judgement.

      I do hope you stop concentrating on identity enforcement or people around here will leave.

      This is not the TSA and this is no airplane.

      I find it fascist trying to tag and identify everyone on an internet public forum.

      :-|
      ==========================

      LOL @ this deletion
    2. SUVs R wasteful
      SUVs R wasteful

      RE: Censorship in Politics + -

      SUVs R wasteful Jun 20 at 2008, 1:25 PM
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      SUVs R wasteful said "And of course he's back to his old tactics of censorship and then like a little boy pretending he's not doing anythin"
      And of course he's back to his old tactics of censorship and then like a little boy pretending he's not doing anything wrong.


      :-|
      1. Fred
        Fred

        RE: Censorship in Politics + -

        Fred Jun 20 at 2008, 10:36 PM
        6 posts
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        <message deleted>

        Fred said "I got it too..."
        I got it too...
        1. SUVs R wasteful
          SUVs R wasteful

          RE: Censorship in Politics + -

          SUVs R wasteful Jun 21 at 2008, 11:36 PM
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          SUVs R wasteful said "Yep, his facade of impartial moderator is pretty much out the window now. I would say he's only a bit more toleran"
          Yep, his facade of impartial moderator is pretty much out the window now. I would say he's only a bit more tolerant than Maria.

          LOLOLOL
          1. Fred
            Fred

            RE: Censorship in Politics + -

            Fred Jun 22 at 2008, 10:46 PM
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            Fred said "I can't get enough of that guy!!! I encourage people to join and tell him how you feel its awesome!"
            I can't get enough of that guy!!! I encourage people to join and tell him how you feel its awesome!
            1. SUVs R wasteful
              SUVs R wasteful

              RE: Censorship in Politics + -

              SUVs R wasteful Jun 23 at 2008, 12:17 PM
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              SUVs R wasteful said "I bet if you give him your number this is what he'll sound like: And like Giuliani he will send people"
              I bet if you give him your number this is what he'll sound like:



              And like Giuliani he will send people after you:

              1. Fred
                Fred

                RE: Censorship in Politics + -

                Fred Jun 23 at 2008, 10:11 PM
                2 posts
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                Fred said "I love it!"
                I love it!
                1. SUVs R wasteful
                  SUVs R wasteful

                  RE: Censorship in Politics + -

                  SUVs R wasteful Jun 24 at 2008, 9:56 AM
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                  SUVs R wasteful said ";-)"
                  ;-)
    Last post 26 days ago
  4. SUVs R wasteful
    SUVs R wasteful

    Modern fascism in the media + -

    SUVs R wasteful Apr 22 at 2008, 5:16 PM
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    SUVs R wasteful said "Two simple steps which always work: 1) First, free speech is determined "unappropiate" by a government authorit"
    Two simple steps which always work:

    1) First, free speech is determined "unappropiate" by a government authority by who knows what means.


    2) Then ownership rights are used to circumvent the First Amendment.


    This is how the FCC and Corporate Media work together to suppress free speech.


    :-|
    1. SUVs R wasteful
      SUVs R wasteful

      RE: Modern fascism in the media + -

      SUVs R wasteful Apr 22 at 2008, 5:40 PM
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      SUVs R wasteful said "There was a law in place to prevent this. It prohibited major media outlets from owning small independent news com"
      There was a law in place to prevent this. It prohibited major media outlets from owning small independent news companies.

      That law was struck down by the Republican Congress and Bush.

      Now major media conglomerates are eating up independent journalists and pushing their own views or just firing anyone who disagrees.

      Simple yet effective.
    2. SUVs R wasteful
      SUVs R wasteful

      RE: Modern fascism in the media + -

      SUVs R wasteful Jun 20 at 2008, 1:26 PM
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      SUVs R wasteful said "In fact we have our own brand of fascism running rampant around here. :-|"
      In fact we have our own brand of fascism running rampant around here.


      :-|
      1. Fred
        Fred

        RE: Modern fascism in the media + -

        Fred Jun 20 at 2008, 10:37 PM
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        Fred said "The sons of Reagan on the march"
        The sons of Reagan on the march
        1. SUVs R wasteful
          SUVs R wasteful

          RE: Modern fascism in the media + -

          SUVs R wasteful Jun 21 at 2008, 11:35 PM
          4 posts
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          <message deleted>

          SUVs R wasteful said "An army of insecurities willing to do whatever it takes to control everyone and thus feel better about themselves if"
          An army of insecurities willing to do whatever it takes to control everyone and thus feel better about themselves if only for a while.
          1. Fred
            Fred

            RE: Modern fascism in the media + -

            Fred Jun 22 at 2008, 10:48 PM
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            Fred said "I put an article from salon on there so he would take the bait so I could tell him to suck it! hahahahahahahahahahah"
            I put an article from salon on there so he would take the bait so I could tell him to suck it! hahahahahahahahahahah
            1. SUVs R wasteful
              SUVs R wasteful

              RE: Modern fascism in the media + -

              SUVs R wasteful Jun 23 at 2008, 12:13 PM
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              SUVs R wasteful said "Careful or Paul the enforcer will call the plagiarism police on you. Because we all know no one ever cuts and pa"
              Careful or Paul the enforcer will call the plagiarism police on you.

              Because we all know no one ever cuts and paste in the internet

              NEVER EVER!!!
              1. Fred
                Fred

                RE: Modern fascism in the media + -

                Fred Jun 23 at 2008, 10:10 PM
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                Fred said "lol he got me aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!"
                lol he got me aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
    Last post 26 days ago
  5. SUVs R wasteful
    SUVs R wasteful

    Demanding respect without giving it in return + -

    SUVs R wasteful Jun 22 at 2008, 11:13 PM
    4 posts
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    SUVs R wasteful said "So if I delete people's opinions because I don't respect them, should I expect respect in return? Pretty sad how "
    So if I delete people's opinions because I don't respect them, should I expect respect in return?

    Pretty sad how people can be totally unaware of this personality defect or just be ok with total hypocrisy.

    I DEMAND RESPECT YOU LOWLY PEASANT!!!

    LOL
    1. Fred
      Fred

      RE: Demanding respect without giving it in return + -

      Fred Jun 23 at 2008, 5:00 AM
      3 posts
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      <message deleted>

      Fred said "How do you get to be a moderator on this site"
      How do you get to be a moderator on this site
      1. SUVs R wasteful
        SUVs R wasteful

        RE: Demanding respect without giving it in return + -

        SUVs R wasteful Jun 23 at 2008, 11:59 AM
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        SUVs R wasteful said "You form your own group and thus become admin & mod for it. I think it's time for a real politics group. I'll"
        You form your own group and thus become admin & mod for it.

        I think it's time for a real politics group.

        I'll join if you create it.
        1. Fred
          Fred

          RE: Demanding respect without giving it in return + -

          Fred Jun 23 at 2008, 10:09 PM
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          <message deleted>

          Fred said "do it! that other one is stupid"
          do it! that other one is stupid
    Last post 26 days ago
  6. SUVs R wasteful
    SUVs R wasteful

    Power tripping group admin + -

    SUVs R wasteful Apr 10 at 2008, 2:53 PM
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    SUVs R wasteful said "Censorship, so great, so fresh, so safe for control freaks and whiners. Good job there!!! Thanks for killing a"
    Censorship, so great, so fresh, so safe for control freaks and whiners.

    Good job there!!!

    Thanks for killing a 100 thoughts with one swift click.

    Let freedom ring..

    :-|
    1. SUVs R wasteful
      SUVs R wasteful

      RE: Power tripping group admin + -

      SUVs R wasteful Apr 10 at 2008, 5:13 PM
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      SUVs R wasteful said "Back up post since one knows which thread she will blow away next: ================== I wrote the rules up at"
      Back up post since one knows which thread she will blow away next:
      ==================

      I wrote the rules up at the request of a couple of people.

      A couple people decide what 1337 people will post. Yeah that's great there.

      Jaz asked for this and he just pointed out that it was already there.

      So let me guess, Paul was one of those people who 'helped' with these rules huh??

      :-|

      I know that you don't like me deleting any posts, you think it is a power trip and censorship and all that (I saw your message in your little soapbox group) but it's not.

      The threads didn't need to be deleted, you could've just told people not to post anymore in there. Did Paul tell you to delete them? Or was it your own inability to defend your argument that made you do it?

      This has actually been a good week around here. Thoughts haven't been killed. Without the group being hijacked by one or two people for their off topic rants

      People have other threads they can create and use. No one is or ever was tying their hands. Sure is quiet though, just like a curfew imposed by force.

      Thank you your highness...

      :-|
    2. Jas (Jazzie)
      Jas (Jazzie)

      RE: Power tripping group admin + -

      Jas (Jazzie) Apr 11 at 2008, 11:57 AM
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      Jas (Jazzie) said "why is there so much drama in that group? seriously. why do people take everything so seriously. its supposed to be "
      why is there so much drama in that group? seriously. why do people take everything so seriously. its supposed to be whatever.. people blowing off steam, everyone is getting offended by everyone else... it is so dumb.
      1. SUVs R wasteful
        SUVs R wasteful

        RE: Power tripping group admin + -

        SUVs R wasteful Apr 11 at 2008, 1:01 PM
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        SUVs R wasteful said " why is there so much drama in that group? seriously. why do people take everything so seriously. its supposed to b"
        why is there so much drama in that group? seriously. why do people take everything so seriously. its supposed to be whatever.. people blowing off steam, everyone is getting offended by everyone else... it is so dumb.

        I know right??? It's like life or death for them to have their view of "peace and quiet".

        It's hilarious because they see my every post as a threat of some sort. Like if they are not able to think for themselves and post what they like. They have to stick to a certain style or they feel lost, confused, and threatened.

        The power-tripping admin deleted every single post of mine on that thread.

        Whining must've been at all time high too.....teeeeheheheee.

        The fact you see that by itself puts you a notch higher in maturity.

        They all got off their lawn chairs and came to beat me with their canes...LOLOLOL
        1. Jas (Jazzie)
          Jas (Jazzie)

          RE: Power tripping group admin + -

          Jas (Jazzie) Apr 11 at 2008, 1:16 PM
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          Jas (Jazzie) said "I know! I think people who take whatever anyone else posts seriously have no life.. I saw that they deleted al"
          I know!

          I think people who take whatever anyone else posts seriously have no life..

          I saw that they deleted all your posts... I dont understand why everyone is fighting... if you dont like whatever someone is posting just ignore it... that's what I do.. the hell is wrong w/ everyone?

          I can understand that miscommunication happens and people might take a comment or two the wrong way... but the power trip that everyone is on... oh! this is not the way its supposed to be, delete, delete, delete..

          it is the childishness to the extreme.
          1. SUVs R wasteful
            SUVs R wasteful

            RE: Power tripping group admin + -

            SUVs R wasteful Apr 11 at 2008, 1:23 PM
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            SUVs R wasteful said " I think people who take whatever anyone else posts seriously have no life.. Amen sista!!! I saw that they"
            I think people who take whatever anyone else posts seriously have no life..

            Amen sista!!!

            I saw that they deleted all your posts... I dont understand why everyone is fighting... if you dont like whatever someone is posting just ignore it... that's what I do.. the hell is wrong w/ everyone?

            Yep, mob mentality, childish behavior, power-tripping, etc., etc. all rolled into one.
      2. SUVs R wasteful
        SUVs R wasteful

        RE: Power tripping group admin + -

        SUVs R wasteful Apr 11 at 2008, 1:18 PM
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        SUVs R wasteful said " Well thanks for all of the kind words, folks... I'll wait 24 hours and then delete this thread because it is reall"
        Well thanks for all of the kind words, folks... I'll wait 24 hours and then delete this thread because it is really off topic and I don't want this group to be about me.

        I'll put the rules in the group's description when I do as someone suggested. Thanks again!

        LOL, I just finished telling her about deleting whole threads and there she goes again blowing away everyone's opinions like nothing.

        I have no clue how going.com admins picked her. I can think of several other people more level-headed and impartial. In fact I wish YOU had been an admin Jas.
    3. Akinyi
      Akinyi

      RE: Power tripping group admin + -

      Akinyi Apr 12 at 2008, 10:38 AM
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      <message deleted>

      Akinyi said "When a party is not fun any more leave it."
      When a party is not fun any more leave it.
      1. Jas (Jazzie)
        Jas (Jazzie)

        RE: Power tripping group admin + -

        Jas (Jazzie) Apr 12 at 2008, 6:40 PM
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        Jas (Jazzie) said "so true."
        so true.
        1. SUVs R wasteful
          SUVs R wasteful

          RE: Power tripping group admin + -

          SUVs R wasteful Jun 20 at 2008, 1:27 PM
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          SUVs R wasteful said "So very true still!"
          So very true still!
    Last post 30 days ago
  7. SUVs R wasteful
    SUVs R wasteful

    Internet dictators + -

    SUVs R wasteful Jun 20 at 2008, 1:23 PM
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    SUVs R wasteful said "You can only say what they want to hear or your post will be deleted and/or you will be locked out. Can you imag"
    You can only say what they want to hear or your post will be deleted and/or you will be locked out.

    Can you imagine people like this in power in real life???

    It would be back to old business with a bunch of self-grandiose dictators/kings running everything.

    THANK GOD for the Constitution of the United States of America. Thank you forefathers!

    GOD BLESS AMERICA.
    Last post 30 days ago
  8. Akinyi
    Akinyi

    20 dollar gas + -

    Akinyi May 24 at 2008, 3:38 PM
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    Akinyi said "I am betting $5 dollars per gallon gas by August 1. And $20 per gallon within five years. Oil is what 125 now? up "
    I am betting $5 dollars per gallon gas by August 1. And $20 per gallon within five years. Oil is what 125 now? up from under 100 just a year ago. Eventually "mass transit trains everywhere" will start to look like a good idea. I am just laughing at the fools who some months ago were talking about how gas is more "economical" than a network of subways across America hahahahahaha. A real supply crunch is predicted for 5 years from now, which means gas prices could explode if this actually happens - my $20 per gallon guess is for conditions similar to today. So if a crunch does happen your car will be useless and you won't be able to sell it either.
    1. SUVs R wasteful
      SUVs R wasteful

      RE: 20 dollar gas + -

      SUVs R wasteful May 26 at 2008, 10:24 AM
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      SUVs R wasteful said "I think oil will eventually hover around the same prices Europeans pay: "
      I think oil will eventually hover around the same prices Europeans pay: